This post is in relation to:
Wikipedia vs. Britannica, Posted by
Will Richardson from the
Wiki Watch dept.
And the followup conversation,
Wikipedia vs. Britannica at the OK Corral. Posted by Steve at
Teach42.comIf you are familiar with the battle, just read the latter link, to understand where I'm coming from with this. You may have to scroll. Steve's got an HTML bug on his site....:-)
Anyway, the highlights:
Will Richardson:
In case you didn’t see it, The
Journal Nature compared 42 entries in
Wikipedia to the same 42 entries in Britannica and found the each had four major mistakes, and that on average Britannica had three minor errors in each entry compared to four inWikipedia.
Steve Dembo:So can someone explain to me what’s different? Believe me, I’m not saying that the Wikipedia is the greatest resource in the world, but I do believe that students need to apply the same critical thinking skills to print resources that they do to online resources.
My Response:
What I think is great is the concern for accuracy. I think people forget how totally inaccurate history is! All Wikipedia is history being reported in real time. The people being reported on are actually alive - which is something Brintannica hasn’t had to worry about so much. The fact that the facts are open to debate at all is a testament to what Wikipedia is. In 2080, someone will be reading about Brintannica on Wikipedia, not the other way around.
So screw the people that are complaining about Wikipedia. They were the same people that said Gutenberg had some typos…
History is written by the victors, or at the very least, the most concerned party. Applied to Wikipedia, where history is now, as well as then, history is written before there are any victors, and the combatants get to fight it out virtually. I guess in the case of Wikipedia, history isn’t written by the victor as much as the person who posts loudest and longest.
To Steve’s point, though. Can Wikipedia be trusted? Can you toss it in a bibliography? And has someone figured out how to format internet references in a bibliography yet? I always got points off for not formatting my bibliography properly….
I say yes, it can be trusted as far as anything can be trusted, but I am not saying it’s right. Steve said that he wanted his students to apply critical thinking. That’s the key. I remember I had a report due on someone in grade school. I copied the World Book verbatim and got busted for it. I learned from that. Anyone that does that with Wikipedia, will hopefully get busted likewise. But what’s key here is that anyone that is copying anything verbatim is missing the point - and a teacher has failed if that’s the case. Start with Wikipedia, cross reference with Britannica, then throw a couple of subject specific books and maybe a History channel special. Hell - even Dan Brown! Get lots of opinions on everthing. The internet is making this easier and easier as more content gets added. Hopefully the internet as a whole - and not just the scapegoat, wikipedia, will end up being the vehicle for critical thinking and cross referencing.
Final Point:To address Steve's point, as well as my last comments. Information is not only as good as your source. Information is only as good as your "
source net"; The integrated information that results from crossreferencing multiple sources.
But here lies the rub. Wikipedia is incredibly accessible. Google is accessible, but the information is a joke. Most other references are complicated to access or even find. So kids that would rather be doing anything than studying or working on a paper, will follow the path of least resistance. They will do one stop shoppping at wikipedia, and get back to having fun.
Google and Amazon had the solution for this by archiving the content of all books, and making them searchable. However, they've been blocked as a result of publishers getting whiny and claiming they own all the words in those books, even if only 20 are shown at a time. (Read about this here:
Google's Escalating Book Battle, by Burt Helm,
BusinessWeek Online)
It is essential to teachers and learners that access to information be fluid. Getting all huffy because someone can finally find exactly what they're looking for in a book is just goofy. Publishers have been all for the unwieldy and ridiculous card catalog for decades. Make a better card catalog, and let the bitchin' begin. Allow kids the ability to reference "reputable sources" as easily as they can wikipedia, and you have the ability to develop a quality "
source net" at the breakneck pace demanded by todays educators.
Ace